Grok 4.5 was trained on datasets spanning knowledge in coding, science, engineering, and math. With both intelligent and efficient reasoning, Grok 4.5 excels at real engineering tasks and exceeds comparable leading models at these tasks.
Grok 4.5 vs Qwen3.8 Max
Compare Grok 4.5 from Grok and Qwen3.8 Max from Qwen on key metrics including benchmarks, price, context length, and other model features. Access both models and hundreds of others through the AIHubMix API.
Qwen3.8-Max is Alibaba Cloud Tongyi Qianwen's next-generation flagship large language model, featuring a mixture-of-experts (MoE) architecture with 2.4 trillion parameters. It achieves another breakthrough in encoding depth, enabling it to handle more complex engineering-grade projects and long-term autonomous development; collaborative agent capabilities are significantly enhanced, performing more confidently in multi-tool orchestration and end-to-end delivery; visual understanding is comprehensively improved, with more sensitive and accurate chart reasoning, document parsing, and multimodal perception. Continuing the 1-million-context window, reasoning modes, and a complete tool ecosystem, it continues to evolve at a higher level of intelligence.
Pricing & Specifications
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FAQ
Which is cheaper: Grok 4.5, Qwen3.8 Max?
Qwen3.8 Max: $5.07/M output tokens; Grok 4.5: $6/M. Use the cost calculator above to estimate your own workload.
How do their coding arena scores compare?
Grok 4.5: 1523; Qwen3.8 Max: 1520 (LMArena coding leaderboard).
Which responds faster?
Qwen3.8 Max: 2.5s time to first token measured on AIHubMix; see the live performance charts above for how each model behaves across the day.
How large is each context window?
Grok 4.5 accepts 500,000 and Qwen3.8 Max accepts 991,000 input tokens. Maximum output per request is 500,000 tokens on Grok 4.5 and 128,000 tokens on Qwen3.8 Max.
Which one generates tokens faster?
Qwen3.8 Max at 40.0 tok/s and Grok 4.5 at 26.3 tok/s, measured as output throughput on AIHubMix — a separate metric from time to first token.
What inputs and capabilities does each model support?
Grok 4.5 accepts text and image input and supports thinking, tool calling, function calling, structured outputs and long context; Qwen3.8 Max accepts text input and supports tool calling, function calling, structured outputs, web search, long context and thinking.
Can I call Grok 4.5 and Qwen3.8 Max with the same API key?
Yes. AIHubMix serves every model on this page behind one OpenAI-compatible endpoint, so switching between them is a one-line change to the model field — no second account, key or SDK.
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