Models

Grok 4.5 vs Qwen3.8 Max

Compare Grok 4.5 from Grok and Qwen3.8 Max from Qwen on key metrics including benchmarks, price, context length, and other model features. Access both models and hundreds of others through the AIHubMix API.

GrokGrok 4.5QwenQwen3.8 Max
Grok logo
Grok 4.5
Grok · text, image → text

Grok 4.5 was trained on datasets spanning knowledge in coding, science, engineering, and math. With both intelligent and efficient reasoning, Grok 4.5 excels at real engineering tasks and exceeds comparable leading models at these tasks.

Input$2 /M
Output$6 /M
Cache read$0.5 /M
Qwen logo
Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen · text → text

Qwen3.8-Max is Alibaba Cloud Tongyi Qianwen's next-generation flagship large language model, featuring a mixture-of-experts (MoE) architecture with 2.4 trillion parameters. It achieves another breakthrough in encoding depth, enabling it to handle more complex engineering-grade projects and long-term autonomous development; collaborative agent capabilities are significantly enhanced, performing more confidently in multi-tool orchestration and end-to-end delivery; visual understanding is comprehensively improved, with more sensitive and accurate chart reasoning, document parsing, and multimodal perception. Continuing the 1-million-context window, reasoning modes, and a complete tool ecosystem, it continues to evolve at a higher level of intelligence.

Input$1.69 /M
Output$5.07 /M
Cache read$0.169 /M

Pricing & Specifications

Prices are per million tokens. Time to First Token and throughput are rolling averages measured on AIHubMix.

Grok 4.5
Qwen3.8 Max
Input /M
$2
$1.69
Output /M
$6
$5.07
Cache read /M
$0.5
$0.169
Context length
500,000
991,000
Max output
500,000
128,000
Time to First Token
3.5 s
2.5 s
Throughput
26.3 tok/s
40.0 tok/s
Modalities
textimage
text
Supported Parameters
thinkingtoolsfunction callingstructured outputslong context
toolsfunction callingstructured outputsweblong contextthinking
API Formats
Released
July 2026
August 3, 2026

Promotional prices show the discounted rate; see each model page for promotion windows.

Activity Past 30 Days

Daily traffic served through AIHubMix — how demand for each model is trending.

grok-4.5qwen3.8-max

Tokens / day

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Requests / day

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Performance Past 3 Days

Measured on real AIHubMix traffic, hourly buckets. Gaps mean no traffic in that hour.

grok-4.5qwen3.8-max

Throughput (tok/s)

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TTFT (s)

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Uptime (%)

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LMArena Benchmarks

LMArena ratings by capability (Bradley-Terry, commonly called Elo). Higher is better.

Text
grok-4.5qwen3.8-max
1420146015001540
Overall
14711480
Coding
15201523
Math
14791497
Hard prompts
14951502
Instruction following
14661477
Multi-turn
14761493
Creative writing
14511466
Longer query
14871492
Chinese
15121536
English
14761488
Vision
grok-4.5qwen3.8-max
126013001340
Overall
12821300
OCR
12941315
Diagram
13191326
Homework
13241334
WebDev Arena
grok-4.5qwen3.8-max
1500158016601740
Overall
15561670
React
15591679
HTML
15711628
Gaming
15891735
Simulations
15851667
Data analytics
15211615

Source: LMArena (arena.ai) leaderboard, imported by AIHubMix. Models without published ratings are omitted per chart.

Cost calculator

Estimate your monthly bill for the same workload on each model.

Qwen3.8 Max
$177 /mo
Grok 4.5
$210 /mo

Monthly = daily × 30. Discounted rates applied where a promotion is active.

FAQ

Which is cheaper: Grok 4.5, Qwen3.8 Max?

Qwen3.8 Max: $5.07/M output tokens; Grok 4.5: $6/M. Use the cost calculator above to estimate your own workload.

How do their coding arena scores compare?

Grok 4.5: 1523; Qwen3.8 Max: 1520 (LMArena coding leaderboard).

Which responds faster?

Qwen3.8 Max: 2.5s time to first token measured on AIHubMix; see the live performance charts above for how each model behaves across the day.

How large is each context window?

Grok 4.5 accepts 500,000 and Qwen3.8 Max accepts 991,000 input tokens. Maximum output per request is 500,000 tokens on Grok 4.5 and 128,000 tokens on Qwen3.8 Max.

Which one generates tokens faster?

Qwen3.8 Max at 40.0 tok/s and Grok 4.5 at 26.3 tok/s, measured as output throughput on AIHubMix — a separate metric from time to first token.

What inputs and capabilities does each model support?

Grok 4.5 accepts text and image input and supports thinking, tool calling, function calling, structured outputs and long context; Qwen3.8 Max accepts text input and supports tool calling, function calling, structured outputs, web search, long context and thinking.

Can I call Grok 4.5 and Qwen3.8 Max with the same API key?

Yes. AIHubMix serves every model on this page behind one OpenAI-compatible endpoint, so switching between them is a one-line change to the model field — no second account, key or SDK.

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